[HOW-TO] Installing XBIAN directly on RASPBIAN IMG

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(6th Dec, 2013 07:46 AM)coloxim Wrote:  You can make a optimize raspbian setup?

If we want? Of course..

just to put this right, this doesn't mean there is a program running on the background counting how much stars is on in the sky taking 100mb and 50% of cpu time.

with just downloaded RASPBIAN IMG (exactly this one :
Image 2013-09-25-wheezy-raspbian.zip
Torrent 2013-09-25-wheezy-raspbian.zip.torrent
SHA-1 Checksum 99e6b5e6b8cfbf66e34437a74022fcf9744ccb1d
Default login pi / raspberry
Description A Debian wheezy port, optimised for the Raspberry Pi
Release Date 2013-09-25
Version wheezy
Kernel 3.6)

without any manual touch / edit / remove action (just by updating XBian pac
kages if was needed and then reinstalling directly to the IMG again), after finishing with XBian debs and reboot, XBMC booted in 31s on same RPI with same config.txt (XBian Beta2 clean flash 29-30s).
GUI, addons etc were running SUBJECTIVELY the same way.

of course you have there some silly things like:
- complete cross compile toolchain for cross platform development - who the hell is willing to die in the front of his own RPI on exhaustion waiting one week for "hello world" to compiled for architecture of os supa-dupa supercomputer located in CHINA? I lnow who, … only the one guy who runs it. So we normal people remove it (it takes 100M)
- or whose idea was to make SAMBA 2 Windows Domain Services to be started and working by default if most of the deployments hardly runs external hard drive as (in the means of being attached to other equipment.

so of course i'm doing to implement this as part of clean up code , but this is like dead weight, it is not taking live cycles from you. and the ugly GENERALLY needed stuff (which for REAL NOBODY ever used) was already cleaned up.

otherwise XBian would not be XBian as we do this all the time - we don't take the system manually apart later.

If you are interested go for it, you won't feel difference, you get update later as any other XBian user (because it will be actually XBian with only one difference that you already have working ALSA/PULSEAUDIO, XWINDOWS with some kind of Office application for sure, nice Browser and it works already as expected without recompiling FB Xorg system, looking for patches, showing correct local characters (triangular shaped objects instead) (ok, I admit it is not that bad as 10 years ago but still going from minimal install to a fully working consolidated system was nightmare to me). why to bother if it goes the easy way. it was first time I have seen raspbian running RPI - I mean really look into the disto. And be used to here the usual stuff how much shit it is even for non-commercials and developing world - only positive surprise. Any commercial company from direction ASIA/PACIFIC would be so much successful if they only would be able to deliver such consolidated and cheap product.

don't feel like you need to wait for better and more optimized version. in reality it is a dream nobody will ever get to. like dog trying to catch own tail.

To my surprise there were NO conflicts (as they are for some users of older XBian version) - I as expecting more packages - more issues I we could catch in advance but no.

Next days we plan to put updates containing boot manager with maybe some easy to use clever helper tools to make consultation to one card for more systems they like as easy as for instance the cloner function. Looks like the popular NOOBS or BerryBoot in use and working but are limiting the user experience like for instance no updates etc, or making the system installation a nightmare for non experienced users (for unsupported systems). Definitely during first release but I expect this to work as easy and without limitations as FULL BOOT LOADERS used on PC or better nothing. Because then a hardly enjoyable experience is becoming bad experience and frustration.

In any case if you check this one anytime soon, report instantly back. I going to make the first post more stricture to better focus on the technical steps. After we get a clear picture, we can prepare an installer.