Xbian 1.0 Alpha 5 download location
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15th Mar, 2014, 05:16 AM
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Xbian 1.0 Alpha 5 download location
Hi,
I have been a xbian user from the initial stages and I was very happy with the Xbian 1.0 Alpha 5. After upgrading to Beta, I started seeing lot of problems with USB audio play back through mpd (lots of clicks and pops as well as the music started playing in varying speeds), I tried so many workarounds but nothing helped. I got forced to move to raspbmc, and there it works great, but somehow the last raspbmc version has some CEC problems with my LG TV and occasionally the CEC remote stops working which was frustrating. So I was thinking since I was happy with the Alpha release, thought f moving back to that and give it a try. If some body has the download link, could you please share it. |
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18th Mar, 2014, 05:55 AM
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RE: Xbian 1.0 Alpha 5 download location
How about moving forward and not backwards?
Unfortunately Alpha has been discontinued. There was a URL to discontinued IMG files but alas that now only contains a CUBOX image. I can dropbox an old Alpha5 image (no idea how good it is) if you PM your DB link. Please read before you post How to post a log file If you liked my help, click on "Thanks" to show your appreciation.
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19th Mar, 2014, 09:47 PM
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RE: Xbian 1.0 Alpha 5 download location
(18th Mar, 2014 05:55 AM)IriDium Wrote: How about moving forward and not backwards?Thanks Iridium, I was also hoping the usb dac issues will be fixed in the later releases but somehow for me its not getting improved with later releases. Not exactly sure whats happening. I tried lot of tweakings and workarounds suggested by lot of people in raspifyi forums and none helped Unfortunately Alpha has been discontinued. have PMed you my email id so that the dropbox folder can be shared. |
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24th Mar, 2014, 07:51 AM
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RE: Xbian 1.0 Alpha 5 download location
@killerbrain
if your Alpha does not suffer from the usb "problems" then you should be documenting this and reporting to RPI development team (firmware & kernel) as they are looking for solution since I remember (Jan/2013). Please read rules and do a search before you post! . FAQs . How to post log file? . Looking for answers? Please start here |
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24th Mar, 2014, 03:28 PM
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RE: Xbian 1.0 Alpha 5 download location
(24th Mar, 2014 07:51 AM)mk01 Wrote: @killerbrain Hi mk01, But the thing which I dont understand is , I see this issue with latest xbian alone. I have tried the latest raspbmc and there I dont face any problems with USB audio, infact there my usb dac even works great with XBMC. (although its not stable, if I do a forward or reverse video seek, then xbmc crashes) Can this be solved by changing the dynamic priority/niceness level given to teh xbmc gui. |
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24th Mar, 2014, 06:51 PM
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RE: Xbian 1.0 Alpha 5 download location
@killerbrain
sure, you can alter priority according to various "states" of xbmc in /etc/init/xbmc-priority.conf. states alone have docs in bridge-xbmc service code /usr/local/sbin/upstart-xbmc-bridge.py and feel free to use raspbmc kernel to boot xbian and vice versa (for testing) - including firmware files. if you are saying it is XBian only, it should not be that hard to track down. what version of xbian-package-kernel and -firmware you are running ? can you also provide cmdline.txt and config.txt from raspbmc to compare ? Please read rules and do a search before you post! . FAQs . How to post log file? . Looking for answers? Please start here |
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25th Mar, 2014, 05:14 PM
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RE: Xbian 1.0 Alpha 5 download location
(24th Mar, 2014 06:51 PM)mk01 Wrote: @killerbrain Thanks mk01. last week I tried overclocking the xbian and that helped a lot, but unfortunately my SD card got corrupted yesterday (I think its due to the over clocking). Following was the config.txt info which I had for overclocking Terminal gpu_mem_512=128 gpu_mem_256=128 initial_turbo=1 disable_splash=1 hdmi_force_hotplug=1 disable_overscan=1 arm_freq=900 core_freq=333 sdram_freq=450 over_voltage=0 Xbian-package-kernel and firmware version: Since my sd card got corrupted yesterday I couldnt get that. For now I have installed Raspbmc on that sd card. I have one more spare sd card on which I will install Xbian and get the info by tommorrow. most probably by tommorrow after installing Xbian on the new SD Card, I would be able to provide the config.txt and cmdline.txt of both xbian and raspbmc. |
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26th Mar, 2014, 02:42 AM
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RE: Xbian 1.0 Alpha 5 download location
(24th Mar, 2014 06:51 PM)mk01 Wrote: @killerbrain Hi Xbian, Since I was early from work today, I maanged to install xbian on the other unused SD card. Please find the details which you asked for. Appreciate your time and help. Installation details: I dont update the Xbian unless there is an official build which is available.(The reason for this was CEC keeps breaking now and then when I used to keep xbian upto date, so thought of not updating until I get a good build) So this is a fresh Beta 2 install and I didnt use the Xbian installer as I had the Xbian Beta image already downloaded. I used the win32 diskimager to write it to SD. Xbian Kernel Version --------------------------- Terminal xbian@xbian ~ $ uname -a Linux xbian 3.10.12+ #61 Fri Sep 27 19:40:13 CEST 2013 armv6l GNU/Linux xbian@xbian ~ $ xbian@xbian ~ $ sudo dpkg-query --show xbian-package-kernel xbian-package-kernel 1.3-5.5 xbian@xbian ~ $ ---------------------------- Terminal pi@raspbmc:~$ uname -a Linux raspbmc 3.10.24 #2 PREEMPT Mon Dec 23 05:18:12 UTC 2013 armv6l GNU/Linux pi@raspbmc:~$ ----------------------------- Terminal xbian@xbian ~ $ /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd version Oct 1 2013 00:37:09 Copyright © 2012 Broadcom version a421d4b2cee544ec22bd4eee75080248f18fc20b (tainted) (release) xbian@xbian ~ $ xbian@xbian ~ $ sudo dpkg-query --show xbian-package-firmware xbian-package-firmware 1.4-7 xbian@xbian ~ $ Raspbmc Firmware Version -------------------------------- Terminal pi@raspbmc:~$ /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd version Dec 19 2013 20:51:48 Copyright © 2012 Broadcom version 3b3def317b15e02d38376c1dff7013e75fc20670 (clean) (release) pi@raspbmc:~$ Xbian XBMC Version ------------------------ Terminal xbian@xbian ~ $ grep XBMC .xbmc/temp/xbmc.log | head -1 21:18:15 T:3041763872 NOTICE: Starting XBMC (12.2 Git:20130916-091cb29), Platform: Linux (Debian GNU/Linux 7.2 (n/a), 3.10.12+ armv6l). Built on Oct 2 2013 xbian@xbian ~ $ xbian@xbian ~ $ sudo dpkg-query --show xbian-package-xbmc xbian-package-xbmc 2.9-10.13 xbian@xbian ~ $ Xbian cmdline.txt --------------------- Terminal xbian@xbian ~ $ cat /boot/cmdline.txt sdhci-bcm2708.sync_after_dma=0 dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootflags=subvol=root/@,autodefrag,compress=lzo rootfstype=btrfs rootwait smsc95xx.turbo_mode=N elevator=cfq logo.nologo quiet noswap loglevel=0 mod_scsi.scan=sync partswap startevent=mountall splash nohdparm --startup-event mountall xbian@xbian ~ $ Raspbmc cmdline.txt --------------------------- Terminal pi@raspbmc:~$ cat /boot/cmdline.txt dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 noatime quiet rootwait loglevel=1 sdhci-bcm2708.enable_llm=1 dwc_otg.microframe_schedule=1 dwc_otg.fiq_fix_enable=0 dwc_otg.fiq_split_enable=0 dwc_otg.trans_backoff=3000 pi@raspbmc:~$ Xbian Config.txt --------------------- Terminal xbian@xbian ~ $ cat /boot/config.txt #initramfs initramfs.gz 0x00a00000 gpu_mem_512=128 gpu_mem_256=128 initial_turbo=1 disable_splash=1 arm_freq=840 core_freq=275 sdram_freq=400 over_voltage=0 hdmi_force_hotplug=1 xbian@xbian ~ $ Raspbmc config.txt --------------------------- Terminal pi@raspbmc:~$ cat /boot/config.txt arm_freq=850 core_freq=375 force_turbo=1 disable_overscan=1 gpu_mem=128 start_file=start_x.elf fixup_file=fixup_x.dat hdmi_ignore_cec_init=1 hdmi_force_hotplug=1 pi@raspbmc:~$ |
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26th Mar, 2014, 01:52 PM
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RE: Xbian 1.0 Alpha 5 download location
are you sure with the config.txt?
as RaspBMC is officially stating that XBian feels better/faster because it's higher default clocking. but from this it looks like RaspBMC is running important clock at 25% faster. but unimportant for that case - if you don't want to match clocks at the beginning. for start change your XBian cmdline.txt to this: Code: dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 quiet sdhci-bcm2708.enable_llm=1 dwc_otg.microframe_schedule=1 dwc_otg.fiq_fix_enable=0 dwc_otg.fiq_split_enable=0 dwc_otg.trans_backoff=3000 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootflags=subvol=root/@,autodefrag,compress=lzo rootfstype=btrfs rootwait logo.nologo quiet noswap mod_scsi.scan=sync partswap startevent=mountall splash nohdparm --startup-event mountall for avoiding CEC updates there is much better approach in putting specific package on hold. then others will be updated automatically, CEC never. you definitely have to update kernel & specially firmware. otherwise the test is useless. BTW: core clock of 375 to Xbian's 270 is like comparing two different machines. coreclock specifically affects response times. but if you are not afraid of a bit manual action, you can just match RaspBMC firmware & kernel by copying Code: /boot/start_x.elf -> /boot/start.elf then still without reboot run on XBian Code: sudo xbian-update-initramfs Please read rules and do a search before you post! . FAQs . How to post log file? . Looking for answers? Please start here |
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26th Mar, 2014, 02:58 PM
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RE: Xbian 1.0 Alpha 5 download location
(26th Mar, 2014 01:52 PM)mk01 Wrote: are you sure with the config.txt? Thanks mk01 for your reply. Please find my replies below. Regarding the raspbmc config.txt, its the default one. I havent tinkered with over clocking settings on raspbmc as I never faced any issues. Yes I also agree that considering the xbian is running at a lower speed, the performance and bootup of xbian is faster when compared to raspbmc interms of xbmc usage. However if I install gcc(as part of installing PlayDVD addon) on xbian, then xbian slogs where as raspbmc i dont feel any difference at all. may be its due to the higher core freq setting in raspbmc as you mentioned. I will try updating the Xbian cmdline.txt to the one which you suggested after updating the firmware and kernel. Pardon my ignorance on linux, could you please let me know how to keep the CEC package to the same version while doing a apt-get dist-upgrade? If the above doesnt work, I will surely try the manual approach of using the raspbmc kernel and firmware to boot xbian. |
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26th Mar, 2014, 03:36 PM
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RE: Xbian 1.0 Alpha 5 download location
any package on hold:
Code: apt-mark hold xbian-package-cec when I wrote "response times" this on a wider scale includes for instance as you perceive "lags" in the system, or response on console while running more programs, ... all others variants. I run my RPIs at 400/420(375 is raspbmc) and consider them FAST. if I for tests revert to defaults I'm checking all the time if RPI didn't freeze. just in general most of sound glitches / clicks / and other such artefacts are related to timing issues. corefreq has significant impact to context switching, latencies etc. and yes, try standard packages first. as you don't want broken system. btw almost all the parameters which differs (are newly added even on RaspBMC - those dwc_otg.*) are all about the busses and timings as the DWCOTG is raspberry's core driver. So if you will find them as beneficial we will include them for XBian too. Please read rules and do a search before you post! . FAQs . How to post log file? . Looking for answers? Please start here |
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27th Mar, 2014, 06:26 AM
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RE: Xbian 1.0 Alpha 5 download location
Hi mk01,
As per your suggestions following is the update on my trials. I have updated the kernel, firmware and xbmc to the latest version and then modified the cmdline.txt as suggested by you. Still I see the issue occassionally. I couldn't try replacing the xbian kernel and firmware with the raspbmc as its too late for me. I will be able to try that mostly next week and update the thread as I am going on a trip and will be back only by next week. Logs Terminal xbian@xbian ~ $ uname -a Linux xbian 3.12.7+ #5 Sun Jan 19 19:08:40 CET 2014 armv6l GNU/Linux xbian@xbian ~ $ xbian@xbian ~ $ sudo dpkg-query --show xbian-package-kernel xbian-package-kernel 1.3-6.10 xbian@xbian ~ $ xbian@xbian ~ $ sudo dpkg-query --show xbian-package-firmware xbian-package-firmware 1.4.14-0 xbian@xbian ~ $ xbian@xbian ~ $ sudo dpkg-query --show xbian-package-xbmc xbian-package-xbmc 2.9-10.19a xbian@xbian ~ $ xbian@xbian ~ $ cat /boot/cmdline.txt dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 quiet sdhci-bcm2708.enable_llm=1 dwc_otg.microframe_schedule=1 dwc_otg.fiq_fix_enable=0 dwc_otg.fiq_split_enable=0 dwc_otg.trans_backoff=3000 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootflags=subvol=root/@,autodefrag,compress=lzo rootfstype=btrfs rootwait logo.nologo quiet noswap mod_scsi.scan=sync partswap startevent=mountall splash nohdparm --startup-event mountall xbian@xbian ~ $ xbian@xbian ~ $ xbian@xbian ~ $ cat /boot/config.txt #initramfs initramfs.gz 0x00a00000 gpu_mem_512=128 gpu_mem_256=100 initial_turbo=1 disable_splash=1 arm_freq=840 core_freq=275 sdram_freq=400 over_voltage=0 emmc_pll_core=0 hdmi_force_hotplug=1 xbian@xbian ~ $ uname -a Linux xbian 3.12.7+ #5 Sun Jan 19 19:08:40 CET 2014 armv6l GNU/Linux xbian@xbian ~ $ sudo dpkg-version --show xbian-package-xbmc sudo: dpkg-version: command not found xbian@xbian ~ $ sudo dpkg-query --show xbian-package-xbmc xbian-package-xbmc 2.9-10.19a xbian@xbian ~ $ sudo dpkg-query --show xbian-package-firmware xbian-package-firmware 1.4.14-0 xbian@xbian ~ $ sudo dpkg-query --show xbian-package-kernel xbian-package-kernel 1.3-6.10 xbian@xbian ~ $ |
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2nd Apr, 2014, 08:58 PM
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RE: Xbian 1.0 Alpha 5 download location
Hi Mk01,
yesterday I tried booting up with raspbnmc firmware and kernel by referring to the steps which you have mentioned. However after rebooting, I get the below error message.. Mounting /dev/<rootpartitionid> to /newroot failed Is there any way I can correct this? Is there any plan to incorporate the dwc optimizations in the xbian firmware/kernel? I would be happy to test the same. |
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